22 December 2006

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SoOoOoO.....

....As you see, Brittistan has undergone a dramatic change. I hope y'all like it, because it wasn't easy :p
Also, i hope to see more people visiting Insh'Allah (so y'all start REPRESENTING!)
And finally, if there's anything you wish Cricketgal, or I to add to the layout, don't hesitate to let us know :)

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Comments:
dude u be trippin, it wasnt hard..0_o.

no wait this be Brittistan, what i mean is,

excuse me sir, you are surely not telling the truth. Getting this template was as easy as making the queen drink tea.

toodles, i am off.
 
salaam

hey welcome back brittistan'ers :D

let it be written in history that brotherhood has visited this blog on saturday 23 december 2006 at 00:02 hours :D
 
Very nice theme, but kinda girly.
I guess this is one of them "girls only", or "girl power" blogs.
Enjoy your blog ladies.
And how come I see brotherhood where ever I go, till the point that I'm afraid that he'll start pouring out of the tap.
 
assalamu alaikum
Congratulations on your new layout, although this is the first time I come here so anything would have been new to me.

Anyhow, I'm going to have to spoil the party since the subtitle caught my eye; "British*Muslimah*Proud". Not to mention the very title of the blog itself.

You see, I can stand alot of things and ignore alot of things when said by Muslims which I might not generally agree with due to the simple fact that there are some issues where no one opinion is a rule of law. But there are two things I cannot bear; secularism and nationalism and I feel that you seem to be holding quite a bit of nationalism.

Exactly why are you proud to be British? No, let me ask another question instead; why do you even consider yourself British? Tell you what, scratch that; what is Britishness?

What exactly links you to that country? Give me just one thing that links you to a country like the UK more than anywhere else. The government? The system? The people? The food? Or is it only a peice of paper with a stamp on it saying that you have more rights than other people in that country who don't have a stamp on their peice of paper?

I'm sorry if I seem too agressive but like I said; two things I cannot stand. Insha'Allah he will give more patience.

Again, sorry for ruining your topic. It seems to be my thing these days.
 
Brotherhood:wsalam, 'sappenin?
muslim freedom:Yep, girly blog, the clue is in the name, British MUSLIMAH and proud
Abdul Rahman hilmi:hmm. Salam. Well I guess it's nice to hear your opinion, whatever it might be. And as for our Britishness, we're not walking around with our heads held up high, just because we're British, but because we're british AND muslim.
Just because we claim to be 'proud to be british' does not meanwe claim to be better than someone who is not british. We are just trying to show that we do not have a problem with being British. Just because we are British does NOT mean that we are overlooking islam or compromising our faith.
 
wa alaikum al salaam
Britain; neither the history, the culture, the society, the majority religion, the flag, the government, the system, the way of life, or anything and everything has absolutly any link whatsoever with Islam, nay, it's blatent kufr and no Muslim would deny that (except maybe moderates, but then again, they don't mind anything). I'm Syrian and I'm proud to be a Muslim. Period. What affiliation do you have with Britishness? What links you to that country that makes you proud?

Thank you for your reply.

wassalam
 
Asalamalaikum akhi,
you have a very true perspective and i share much of it. i too cant stand nationalism. Ergh. But is acceptance of ones britishness necessarily being nationalistic? a lot of the youth living here, with all the facilities that this soceity offers are still in denial that they are living in britain and still call home pakistan or iraq. That too is something i cannot stand neither.

The title brittistan, came out by chance and we liked the ring it had to it. Just because we accept certain britishness does not mean we agree with the government and all the laws of the land. Every nation has their problems. This one has a lot. But inshallah this is why this blog was set up, to get together a group of muslimahs who do not have the 'back home' mentality, coz this is our home, and inshallah we should put our efforts together to getting the non muslims here to realise the truth of Islam, and portray our faith in the best possible light in the circumstances we have been put in.

Jazakallah khayr for your comments though akhi, your points are quite vaild. We are still young and have a lot to learn.
 
assalamu alaikum
But is acceptance of ones britishness necessarily being nationalistic? a lot of the youth living here, with all the facilities that this soceity offers are still in denial that they are living in britain and still call home pakistan or iraq. That too is something i cannot stand neither.
You are a Muslim. A Muslim pledges allegiance to Allah by definition - it comes along with our concept of tawheed. The moment you say the shahadaa you pledge that there is one god and Muhammad (pbuh) is his prophet. To pledge that your lord is ONE and only ONE means you pledge to obey one master only. To pledge that Muhammad (pbuh) is his prophet means you pledge obey the sunnah and the message that was revealed through the prophet that invalidates all other religions that came before him. Islam is not only something you do inside the mosque sister. Islam IS your culture. It is your society, your history, your flag and your constitution. It is how you lead your life, how you raise your children and how you eat, how you sleep and how you rule and how you punish and how you trade and how you fight and how you make treaties. Islam is how you interact with other people, how you befriend other people, how you celebrate and how you mourn.

You are yet to tell me what is 'Britishness', but if it has anything more or anything that replaces what Islam provides, then my advice to you is to let go of it. And since I know that it will, by definition, either add or replace aspects of Islam, my advice to you is to let go of it. By that I do not mean you burn your passport and go live a difficult life in a difficult land. No, not until practicing Islam in the UK becomes too difficult. But what I mean is that you take what is provided to you, and act like a good citizen would act (without transgressing the limits of Islam ofcourse), until Allah opens for you an exit. But never ever be proud to belong to such a thing. This is not something only for Muslims in the West, but applies to Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Somalia and every single political boundary that divides the Muslims into different categories and calls on Muslims to be proud to the different segments created by non-Islamic means.

Sister, we are Muslims, we belong to Islam and are proud to be Muslims only. We have no link to anything else as Islam has all the answers and requires no alternatives or additions or accessories.

But inshallah this is why this blog was set up, to get together a group of muslimahs who do not have the 'back home' mentality, coz this is our home, and inshallah we should put our efforts together to getting the non muslims here to realise the truth of Islam, and portray our faith in the best possible light in the circumstances we have been put in.
Is it really your home? Tell me sister, does politics exist within our deen or do you believe in secularism? And if it exists within our deen does it not mean it is our duty to uphold it as it erupts from the shariah just like all other Islamic legislations? But then we ask, how can we uphold a law that is not implemented? The prophet (pbuh) will answer by saying, "whatever ever helps you achieve a fard is a fard." Which leads me to my last point for this post.

If the Islamic political entity is established one day somewhere, say in Egypt, would you remain in the UK? Your duty would be to give the bayaa to the khaleefah of the prophet (pbuh) and thus my question to you is, would you change your "home"? certainly you would. Would you then still be "proud to be british"? would you even be british? not any longer. Then your "pride" would change and your loyalty would falter and your home would move. Does that make any sense? You are proud to be a Muslim, your are loyal to Allah and your home is still to be built. Right now, you, just as I and every other Muslim, should be seeing themselves as in a temporary position. This is not our environment, nor is it where we belong, whether you're in the UK or Syria. Our environment is our home and as Muslims our environment comes from the Quraan and the sunnah of the prophet (pbuh). If a Muslim lives in an un-Islamic environment then he should consider it a temporary condition as some laws of Allah are not being implemented which is a duty on our necks. Once Allah blesses us with the full implementation of his deen can the correct environment be established and then we, as Muslims, realise our home.

Jazakallah khayr for your comments though akhi, your points are quite vaild. We are still young and have a lot to learn.
Although age does not matter, I doubt you will be any younger than me. :)

wassalam
 
Subhannallah.

and i dont have much more to say, lol.

Thank you for that, i do agree with a lot of it..seriously i do. Maybe just not as good at articulating myself. But at the same time i do see things a lil differently, but thats probably out of my own experiences.

Jazakallah khayr again,
wasalam
 
ya'll gotta blogggggggggggggggggggggggg :D

and freedomlover.. whats wrong with that? :P
 
Abdul Rahaman:You are yet to tell me what is 'Britishness', but if it has anything more or anything that replaces what Islam provides, then my advice to you is to let go of it. And since I know that it will, by definition, either add or replace aspects of Islam, my advice to you is to let go of it
To us, Britishness is eating fish and chips. Its going to our local Halal Indian Take away. Being British to me means that I have a British accent. Being British means taking a day off work on Bank Holidays. It means accepting the fact that we only get 5 minutes of sunshine every year. Aceepting the fact, that most of the time there is rain.
I don't feel that any of this is actually contradicting Islam in any way. I mean if it is, please tell us. But to us Being British, is not being patriotic and spewing crazy British beliefs at anyone who is going to listen, but actually creating a kind of unity. A friendship. A common cause. Between muslims and non-muslims. :)
 
^ now u girl, know how to articulate
 
Let me just interrupt you ladies for a second.
First of all Sapphire, his name is abdul rahman, not abdul rahaman LOL.
Btw did you watch "team Amerererica"?

I think what the brother is trying to say is that islam is against nationalism in all its forms.
I mean I have no problem with this country, or the people here either.
But I'm not going to say, I'm proud of being a muslim, or a brit.
I didn't want to bring up this point, because to me its rather trivial.

You know, we muslims waste a lot of time talking about the small things, and forgetting the more important things at hand.
So why am I not proud to me a muslim?
Because Allah says that the hypocrite is worse than the non-believer.
Am I a hypocrite?

Well I'm trying not to be.
Also, I had the blessing to be born a muslim, and others did not, do I go and rub it in their face?
And the other point is, that in Islam you should be humble, because God does not love the people who have pride.

If I can be proud of anything, its being a slave of Allah and nothing more.
Proud of being a good human being.
LOL, I know living in the West, we're always asked whether we love the country we're living in, as if we're suspects of terrorism.
The answer is yes we do love this country, and every country that God has created.

I heard from someone that the prophet was even merciful to the ground, and walked lightly, instead of stamping his feet.

Anyway, what the hell am I doing here lecturing you?
I must be in the wrong meeting.
 
subhannallah, yall speak so much good. jazakallah for that muslimfreedom.

so now then. we have a problem. do we need to rename the blog *gasp*
actually i have the problem of being easily persuaded. i agree with both the parties here, and especially what Ziad said.

:look:

BMP officially stands for british muslimah and pagal. word.

oh and we called ourselves BMP as a counteratack of the BNP's after watching one of their shows and getting angry in a time long long ago. Now i rememebr.
 
Dude keep the name.
We was just using this as an excuse to argue LOL.
And if you sisters want to be in my good book, please delete brotherhoods comments, because he's so whack I don't want to share the same blog as him.
 
bismillah
assalamu alaikum
Ukht Sapphire, I lived for 8 years in the heat of Saudi Arabia so yes, I do love the cold myself. I love the night and the rain and the wind and the smell of the wet ground and the grass. I also like fish and chips, but I also like pizzas and several other Arab dishes. I have an American accent due to the schools I was put in during my childhood. Sister, what you said has absolutly nothing to do with Britishness. Rain falls in Asia, and fish is available in Africa and your accent is found in Saudi Arabia and I have seen. Secondly, would it make any sense for me to say that I am proud to be a Muslim but I disagree with Islam on several issues? If I said I am proud of Muslim history but I think it is no longer relevant today, then yes this statement might makes a bit more sense. I can also say 'I am proud of Islamic values but I think it should not interfere with politics' (just for the record, I do not agree with neither of these statements). But to say I am a proud Muslim and then turn out to be proud of absolutly nothing in Islam except some very minor questionable issues that do not belong to Islam in the first place only means that either I have little knowledge of the language I speak or I am a hypocrite trying to decieve someone. Neither of which I believe represents any of you sisters. With all due respect my dear sister, but it is certainly naive to call yourself British just because you like a national dish or you have an accent, don't you think?

but actually creating a kind of unity. A friendship. A common cause. Between muslims and non-muslims.
That is all very well, but I still do not see how proclaiming you are British (let alone PROUD British) is required. I would say you're standing in a mine field. You're labeling yourself something and it is certainly not 'Muslim'. It is Muslim and... .

Remember my good sister, during times of battle the prophet did divide the Muslims into their different tribes. He did this purely to bring forth a sense of competition in battle amongst the different tribes. We also know that there are amongst the Muslims the two most prominent groups, the Meccans and the those from Medinah. But remember what they stand for my sister. When I say ansaar, what do you think? Do you not think of brave Muslims who fought for the deen and gave the pledge to the prophet (pbuh)? When I say British, with all honesty my sister, what is the first thing that comes to mind? I, and I am certain alot of Muslims would agree, would think of Christianity, of oppression, of colonisation, of Iraq, of Afghanistan, of the blood of Muslims being pumped from the ground and poured into barrells to feed an ugly vampire. I'll make it even simpler to you sister. What do we call the Muslims of Mecca? Would it not be either al Muhajiroun or ahlu Macca? And when the word Quraish is said, to whom is it more often than not being referencing? Is it not he pagans of Mecca? The oppressors of the Muslims? Do you still think of yourself as British, sister? Even a British Muslim? When England becomes an ideal Muslim country with Islamic values and a society Muslims look up to, then I would be the first to fit myself amongst you.

wassalam
 
I have to say there's been a lot of interesting points brought up by you guys. Ziad, please forgive my spelling error. (nitpicker :P)
Abdul Rahman Hilmi:Like i said there's been a lot of interesting points brought up, mainly by you, and i will be taking them into consideration insh'allah. I don't want to have a huge debate on nationalism, since i'm probably not knowledgable to anyway. (lol) and I will agree, that in some senses you are right.
What I have to enforce though, is what Cricketgal said, about the BNP and us being the BMP...yeh...lol...i still find it funny...pun on words and stuff...lol
 
I'm not of any nation, but if i was to stand for any particular nation, it would be britain, simply because this is the country from which i am getting sufficient shelter, food, education and don't forget the NHS (i bet all of u are cringing at that last bit but its true, although we moan and groan about it, the NHS is good enough for most of our needs health-wise)...I am not white, or christian but i live in Britain, solely because the country where i would be living in otherwise, is not sufficient to my family's material needs. Let's not forget about quality of life, as much as spirituality and religion mean to us, material factors do have effect on our lifes. I fail to see how Islam comes into the topic of someone proud to live in Britain, it may well be that i am in the wrong and i'm just not getting something, and i don't mean to cause any trouble. In my opinion i can lead a perfect religious/spiritual life while living in Britain, there are so many places of worship, so many religious privileges, considering that Britain is dominantly Christian. Britain is not lacking in Islamic values at all, it is just a matter of exposure, upbringing and living peacefully with people of other faiths. Good values and religious knowledge are supposed to be instilled in children from a young age, it is human to err, and if a person doesn't know any better then they will err, how is the country to blame for that?

It is Muslim and...

SO if i am muslim i cannot call myself female? I cannot 'label myself' as Sunni or Shi'a?

.....confused smeone please explain :S
 
bismillah
assalamu alaikum
Indeed our life is a material one. Everything we do, everything we consider, our own logic is a material logic and when we reason we reason on material basis. Spiritual aspects come as a reinforcement to our material actions, thus the kufaar today are materially better off than the Muslims because the Muslims, although are followers of the deen of Islam, became weak materially and thus as a reaction, their environment turned against them. Prayer alone will not solve our problems unless we take into account materialism. As the prophet (pbuh) said, we should tie the camel and THEN say tawakalltu ala Allah. If you leave the camel untied it will leave even if you said tawakaltu ala Allah.

To live in Britain for the benefits it gives you while you keep your deen AND while you don't have any other alternative is obviously halaal. But as I said in one of my previous posts, you're not allowed to proclaim yourself to be British nor should you consider your present residence as permanent. You simply do not belong in such a culture. I have already said why in the Islamic stand point in my previous posts. If you think I am wrong then please correct me with your evidences. I never said you should leave the country and live in poverty and oppression in the countries dominated by Muslims, neither have I said you should be a criminal in non-Muslim countries.

How exactly is Britain not lacking in Islamic values? Mosques? What is the use of the mosques if the government bathing in Muslim blood? It further proves that those mosques are not even doing their jobs as mosques. Mosques are not only a place to pray your five daily prayers. It is a place where Muslims should discuss ideas, should learn from each other, it should be the Speakers Corner of the Muslims. If the youth are ending up in the jails and the "scholars" are being given platforms and invited to dinners by criminal government officials then those mosques are absolutely pointless.

The moment you see the youth being thrown in jail, being tortured, being kidnapped, being harrassed and attack at their homes in the middle of the night and the "scholars" coming on TV everyday, making meetings and lectures openly without any worry, you know that those scholars are not doing their job. If anyone should be harassed first it is the scholars AND THEN the youth. This is because the scholars should be representing the ummah. It is them that should be the first to speak against the tyrants. But we all know that is not true today. What Islam sister? What values? The problem is not with the people. There are kufaar in the Muslim world as well and we have always lived peacefully with them. It is only recently that I have been hearing of problems between Arab Muslims and Arab Christians and this is due to several factors none of which we are to be blamed for.

The problem is not with the people, it is with the government as I have repeatedly said. The government itself is fighting Islam.

As for your last comment, I do apologise, but it does not make anysense. You have no choice to be a male or a female. You were born the way Allah has decided for you to be. However you DO have a choice as to be British or Muslim, Sunni or Shia, etc. And yes, you are allowed to label yourself Sunni, because being a Sunni means you follow the prophet's sunnah. It means you believe in the tawheed of the Allah and the Quraan as the book revealed by Allah in its completion, nothing is missing nor is there anything to add onto it.

I am a Muslim, I am from ahlul Sunnah and I work with the Islamic Liberation Party (Hizbut Tahrir al Islami). These are the titles I am proud to carry alhamdullilah.

wassalam
 
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